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!!! My opinion is not everyone's opinion !!! -=My Counter-Strike canon list=- -Counter-Strike Classic Universe- Day of Defeat Counter-Strike Counter-Strike Condition Zero Counter-Strike Condition Zero Deleted Scenes -Counter-Strike Source Universe- Day of Defeat Source Counter-Strike Source -Counter-Strike Nexon Universe- Counter-Strike Condition Zero Counter-Strike Online (Nexon: Zombie/Studio) Counter-Strike Online 2 -Counter-Strike Neo Universe- Counter-Strike Neo -Counter-Strike Modern Universe- Counter-Strike Counter-Strike Global Offensive Counter-Strike 2 -Counter-Strike GO Old Universe- Counter-Strike Global Offensive* Left 4 Dead* Left 4 Dead 2* P.S. de_nuke

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λ2W
Feb 7

Always figure some aspects of Half Life 1 were canon as well to classic timeline

TEPA6ANT

In CS is nothing about Black Mesa in the map descriptions. However, yes, there are textures of containers with Black Mesa logo, and CSCZDS has Half-Life turrets. Perhaps the classic universe includes Half-Life, but you'd think it was an alternate reality where there was no cascade resonance, since Black Mesa was doing something else in that universe. But that's fantasy.

Dom
Dom
Feb 8

I basicly count CS in rest of you can say Valve universe basicly heres how -Day of defeat somewhere in 1943-1945 becouse of american forces in europe after italian and normandy invasion -TF Classic -TF2 somewhere in 80s or 90s remember it being stated somewhere -All of the Counter strike games except for the anime ones ew 1990's-2003 -Half-life mod thats a prelude to hl yes im counting mods too 2002 or a bit less -opposing force tutorial and half-lifes tutorial 2003 -Half-life blue shit, decay, regular, opposing force, echoes, azure sheep and field intensity 2003 -Portal Prelude -Portal 1 -L4D and L4D 2 basicly think of it like this in HL Alyx north america is marked out meaning they lost contact wich makes sense becouse hl alyx and onward take place in Poland/Ukraine/Russia/Belarus/Yugoslavia (least likely)/Bulgaria and also we know that the combine didnt come second after opposing force AND we know that XEN has alot of organisms living in there so it would make sense for something like L4D's zombie virus to spread hell maybe it worked like black plague wich was doing nothing to the animals but killed humans in millions -1197 and its expansion (say 10 years later in 2013) -Then came the combine (2013) -Swelter -HL Alyx (2018) -EZ:1 -HL2 -EZ:Uprising:Ep1 and 2 -HL2:Ep1 -EZ:2 -HL2:Ep2 -HL2:Ep3 -Evacuation -Portal 2 -Portal 2 COOP

Dom
Dom
Feb 8

god damn i went on serious lore dump

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TEPA6ANT

I don't think it's right to add mods to the canon to the main game, especially Entropy : Zero 1 and 2, where the story is some kind of fanfic. Regarding Opposing Force it's Race X which is not mentioned anywhere but Opposing Force itself. About Blue Shift, the protagonist is called by his surname, not by his first name (as in HL2, and in general in HL2 and in episodes they never called Barney by his surname), so it's quite possible that Barney from HL2 is not the same protagonist from HLBS, but he can be any guard of Black Mesa, who was in Half-Life and helped Gordon. Also, nothing is known about characters from Blue Shift and Decay in other parts of the games. So maybe my theory is correct, that there was a big fight between Valve and Gearbox that resulted in Valve ignoring everything in the addons created by Gearbox. And those addons are just another Half-Life universe (Half-Life Gearbox Universe).

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Dom
Dom
Feb 9

About race X its plausible that it got killed off becouse logicaly -Race X isnt united like xen creatures are to a degree -COMBINE -Xen infestation

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TEPA6ANT

But it's also possible that Valve and Gearbox had a falling out during the development of Counter-Strike Condition Zero. I'm sure they could have continued to work with Valve, especially after seeing the Opposing Force fans. But something happened during the development of CSCZ. Why hasn't anyone asked them about it yet?